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RDO
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:35 am |
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Posts: 114Location: Rotterdam,NetherlandsJoined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:45 am
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In addition to the splendid vinyl album discography. Would it be a idea to do the same for cd's and dvd's seperatly? I would like to contribute to that because I am since the early 80's concentrating on collecting cd's only and think that there are a few others interested like me out there. Maybe with bootleg cd's too? because the bassman site hasn't been updated for some years now unfortunatly.
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shooky
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:38 am |
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Site AdminPosts: 743Location: takasaki, japanJoined: Wed May 28, 2008 11:20 am
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in principle this is a good idea, but in reality i think it will be a hard slog. posting covers won't be enough if the idea is to note every variation (booklets, slipcases and disc faces etc would have to be included).
dvds would be much more manageable i'd have thought, even with VHS and Laserdisc titles included. perhaps test the water with that one and then see if the urge to take on the cd project remains strong?
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maarten
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:04 am |
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Site AdminPosts: 760Location: AmsterdamJoined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:14 pm
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I agree it would be a nice thing to have, but it will be a lot of work indeed. The good news is that scanning booklets is easier than photographing vinyl covers, so it is a little easier to contribute. Also the sections for cd-singles and promo only cd's on the website are pretty much complete (though not completely illustrated). Of course there is probably much more variation in items than you would think. Take dvd's for instance - I have seen The Linguini Incident dvd's with at least two completely different titles ( The Robbery and Shag-o-rama), and then there's different pressings for different countries, reissues etc etc.
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beckenham
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:20 pm |
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Definitely a logical next step, but let's not try to run before we can walk. We're already struggling to find contributors to the vinyl albums discography and so far, I haven't seen anything to suggest we have significantly more members who would contribute to a CD or DVD discography.
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RDO
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:13 pm |
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Posts: 114Location: Rotterdam,NetherlandsJoined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:45 am
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Glad to hear from you 3 that you agree in one way or another that this could be a nice addition. The covers of the cd's front and back only wouldn't that be enough? Like I do on my own collection website? I agree with you Beckenham let's not rush. But concerning the amount of other members that are cd -dvd collectors that is not clear to me too but we can only find out by starting such a topic. Maarten the excisting cd singles and promo only cd's sections could problably be updated this way with illustrations that are missing now. And what about the radio shows like those from Westwood One and DIR etc.?
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maarten
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:29 pm |
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Site AdminPosts: 760Location: AmsterdamJoined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:14 pm
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I'm afraid to paint the full picture we need disc label scans as well, as in some cases there are issues were the cover is the same but the cd has a variation. See this post for instance. The Peace On Earth Oglio cd has also been issued with lots of different color cd's, etc etc.
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mrmole
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:57 pm |
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I think a number of good points have been made on this topic and should be taken into consideration.
I'd just like to say that personally I think the vinyl album discography is fantastic - as a collector, this is exactly the kind of thing that I want to see - I just hope it doesn't lose momentum and fade away as many web sites / projects do.
I think we should definitely do a CD section but it should be a separate section and done by country of issue like the albums (but not part of it). Bootlegs would be good too but again, probably separately.
I agree with the comment about struggling to find contributors and fear the same would happen with CDs.
However, I also think that it would be easier to contribute because those of us who like me don't have the equipment or ability to take good photos can use a scanner, so I can't see the same issues with quality.
I think the notion of including pictures of whole booklets really is going a bit too far. I think front and back and disc face is enough with a description of the packaging and contents.
Perhaps just the very first post of each issue e.g. the original issue in the country of manufacture could include the whole booklet and additional posts just describe the differences to packaging with the inclusion of scans of major differences.
Or perhaps a generic example of packaging for the RCAs, The Rykos, The EMI remasters etc with the description of individual releases identifying discrepencies.
Either way, I'm certain it will not be practical to include whole booklets - I doubt you will find people with the time and/or patience to do that.
So I say let's do it, but not yet. Let's stick with the albums for a while.
I'd personally like to see the same thing set up for CD singles and then for 12" singles but one thing at a time. Maybe CD singles would be an easier next project than the albums.
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maarten
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:21 pm |
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Site AdminPosts: 760Location: AmsterdamJoined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:14 pm
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I agree scanning complete booklets would be taking it too far. mrmole wrote: I'd personally like to see the same thing set up for CD singles and then for 12" singles but one thing at a time. Maybe CD singles would be an easier next project than the albums. Cd-singles would probably be more manageable, but on the other hand all of the info on cd-singles is available online, so in my view this is less of a priority than the cd album discography which hasn't been fully documented anywhere.
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ruud
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:19 pm |
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Contrary to the rest, the CD-singles indeed should be pretty complete. Ultimately the structure of a forum probably is not the right way to proceed, as it's very inflexible and only the site owner is allowed to create (sub)fora. A wiki or tweaked CSM would be easier to set up and maintain.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is slightly underwhelmed with the participation so far. Of course it's easier to sit back and watch the show, but if only a handful of people are willing to contribute, don't expect miracles. I will abuse my powers and send a notification to each individual member, maybe that will provide a boost.
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RDO
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:00 pm |
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Posts: 114Location: Rotterdam,NetherlandsJoined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:45 am
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You are right Ruud a wiki would be better. Well let's hope that your notification will get the result we are all hoping for. Anyway you can count on me.
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simong
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:11 pm |
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Posts: 271Location: somewhere over the Pennines...Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:51 pm
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I intend to make more contributions to the vinyl albums discography, but after my first batch of shots (which I was very disappointed with) my camera developed a fault which is in the process of being resolved. Once that's sorted I need to experiment to get better results. Time permitting of course (I'm rarely at home in daylight hours).
I've just uploaded the only successful results (Starting Point).
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mikaels
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:39 pm |
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Posts: 46Location: OutsideJoined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:45 pm
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ruud wrote: I'm glad I'm not the only one who is slightly underwhelmed with the participation so far. Of course it's easier to sit back and watch the show, but if only a handful of people are willing to contribute, don't expect miracles. I will abuse my powers and send a notification to each individual member, maybe that will provide a boost. Sorry to disappoint, I would contribute if I could, but I only have a few vinyl albums left, none of them too rare, and all of them already accounted for (Peter and the Wolf on green vinyl I thought would be my contribution, but like so many others, it was already there). So, I really appreciate the hard work many of you put in, and I'd be glad to contribute, if only I could. I'll check my small vinyl collection once more, just to make sure  .
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maarten
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:00 pm |
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Site AdminPosts: 760Location: AmsterdamJoined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:14 pm
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mikaels wrote: I'll check my small vinyl collection once more, just to make sure  . That is very much appreciated. I'm sure there are lots of variations of records that are covered - label differences, credit changes on the back cover etc. So there's a good chance that even a small collection can yield some additions to the discography.
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PabloPicasso
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:40 pm |
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Posts: 263Location: Was Wales, now Canada, BC.Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:39 pm
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I have some stuff which is still to be added, but sadly just cannot get the time at the moment, but once the kids are back at school, I will see what is left and will contribute. I would also be very happy to contribute to any forthcoming CD and CD singles collection.
By the way, a few years ago a few of us posted cassingle covers. Maybe those posts could be moved to a dedicated cassette singles discography section?
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attfield
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:27 pm |
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Okay, i'm struggling to get decent pictures and also struggling to find time but here is the beginning of what i can add to what is currently up. This is the easy bit as i'm curled up in bed with a child, laptop and pile of records. I would love to be able to dedicate the time needed to get my collection into this database so thanks again to those that have and consider this a downpayment.
I'll list the title, country and how it differs from any posts so far.
Deram / Decca compilations Another Face, UK, front, rear and labels different. David Bowie (Profile) rear (minor) and labels different. The Beginning (Germany) David Bowie (Super Star) Armando Curcio Editore Italy The World Of David Bowie, stereo reissue (minor) rear, labels different. Images, UK labels different (Mr Mole labels but with 'STEREO' above 'Images' Introspective, UK (baktabak Pye singles compilation)
Studio Albums Space Oddity, Canada (minor) rear different. Space Oddity UK EMI (single disc version of Ryko 3 sided) TMWSTW US Ryko obi strip missing word Analogue beneath Ryko TMWSTW UK RCA black inner sleeve, black labels - not 80s reissue though Hunky Dory AUS RCA cover text in yellow! Hunky Dory US RYKO non promo, with obi strip Hunky Dory Germany RCA orange labels but Mainman on rear cover TRAFOZSATSFM UK EMI (single disc version of Ryko 3 sided) TRAFOZSATSFM Portugal RCA (B+W rear sleeve) Aladdin Sane UK EMI (single disc version of Ryko 3 sided) Aladdin Sane UK RCA 1984 picture disc
Okay, that's me done for now. 11:30pm and eyes hurting from cross checking to make sure i've not missed a detail.
I'll crack on with this list later.
I will start photographing soon but if anyone wants something prioritised either leave a note here or PM.
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