Once you have your most loved RCA CDs you can get hold of these Ryco tracks to make up your own bonus discs. (My long winter night though not anywhere as useful as Shookys work)

SOUNDANDVISION
Space Oddity (demo)
The Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud (7”UK) /The Prettiest Star (1970 mono 7”) /London Bye Ta-Ta (1970 mono) /Round And Round (dull mix) /John I'm Only Dancing (Sax 7”) /1984-Dodo /Rebel Rebel (US 7”) /It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City /"Helden" (1989) /John I'm Only Dancing (live) /Changes (live) /The Supermen (live)

FAME90 x9 (Look under entry)

SPACEODDITY Don't Sit Down /Conversation Piece (mono 7”) /Memory Of A Free Festival pt 1 (7”) /Memory Of A Free Festival pt 2 (7”)

THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD Lightning Frightening (mono) /Holy Holy (Ziggy longer edit) /Moonage Daydream (Arnold Corns 7”) /Hang On To Yourself (Arnold Corns 7”)

HUNKY DORY Bombers /The Supermen (Ziggy rough mix) /Quicksand (demo) /The Bewlay Brothers (Alternate Mix)

ZIGGY STARDUST John I'm Only Dancing (remix 79 7”) /Velvet Goldmine (7”) /Sweet Head (no banter) /Ziggy Stardust (demo) /Lady Stardust (demo)

PIN UPS Growin' Up /Amsterdam (wider stereo)

DIAMOND DOGS Dodo /Candidate (demo)

DAVID LIVE all original tracks plus /Here Today, Gone Tomorrow /Time (Ryko edit) /Band Intro

YOUNG AMERICANS Win (ryko remix) /Fascination (ryko remix) (also on sound and vision) /Right (ryko remix) /Who Can I Be Now /It's Gonna Be Me /John I'm Only Dancing (Again) (12”)

STATIONTOSTATION /Word On A Wing (live ryko version) /Stay (live ryko version)

LOW Some Are /All Saints /Sound And Vision (Remixed Version)

“HEROES” Abdulmajid /Joe The Lion (Remixed Version)

STAGE Alabama Song

LODGER I Pray, Olé /Look Back In Anger (1988)

SCARY MONSTERS Space Oddity (1979 7” ryko mix/edit) /Panic In Detroit (1979) /Crystal Japan (7”) /Alabama Song (7”)

MOTION PICTURE all original tracks including Width of a Circle (vinyl edit)

THE SINGLES 1969 TO 1993 (USA) Space Oddity (ryko edit) /John I'm Only Dancing (7”) /TVC 15 (ryko edit) /"Heroes" (7"ryko edit) /DJ (7”) /Ashes To Ashes (7”) /Fashion (7”) /Under Pressure (Classic Queen mix) /Cat People (Film 12”) /Let's Dance (ryko edit) /China Girl (ryko edit) /Modern Love (ryko edit)
/Loving The Alien (ryko album edit) /Dancing In The Street (ryko fade) /Absolute Beginners (7”) /Day-In Day-Out (ryko edit) /Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy (12”)
(last track available later on Oglio EP)

THE SIMGLES COLLECTION (UK) /Under Pressure (Queen Greatest II edit) /This Is Not America (7”) /Dancing In The Street (7”/Day-In Day-Out (7”)

Bold unique to ryco CDs (and most on ryco vinyl) rest later EMI remastered so take your pick.
Some tracks on USA Singles duplicated on UK Singles and on CHANGESBOWIE.
This post is weighted towards CDs for instance if you only collect vinyl Under Pressure (Queen Greatest Hits II) edit is unique to the Singles Collection 3LP as not even on the Queen Vinyl of Greatest Hits II (which holds the original). So as a vinyl collector you will need all the Ryko/EMI Europe releases (bar Spaceoddity, Aladdin Sane, Stage and Changes Bowie) if you want all tracks

All tracks on Live/Motion Picture and Alabama Song from Stage could be included as later releases of each these titles had a new stereo mix.

Please note I have edited thanks to the contributions given below. Thank You and please let me know any more. We still might not agree on Some Are but we agree on most.

Are you saying that 'Ziggy...Motion Picture' came out on vinyl back then? I understood Ryko stopped at David Live, with EMI continuing the vinyl up to "Heroes".

Yours, Pete.

Oh, hang on, you are saying their CD is the same as the recent vinyl right?

Post was correctly moved by Ruud but lost hook that showed it was about CDs (I have now edited to make less confusing).

Not all of these releases made it to Ryko or EMI vinyl so this is about CD format and I have been lazy in classing the two together as distinct to the late 90s EMI remasters.

Motion picture was not released on vinyl in 92 but this is the first time on CD for all tracks and it contains the original Width of A Circle edit (9.36) that was on the original RCA vinyl.

The 30th anniversary is probably superior release but of course it loses this edit on both CD and vinyl editions going for the full (15.45).

I for myself (albeit owning the complete Ryko-Catalogue an CD) have rather gone for the practice of transfering my old vinyl-singles etc. to cd for compiling bonus discs for each album. In my humble opinion Ryko just messed up too much of the material mixing wise. Growing up with the Rykos I was rather shooked, when I finally got my hands on the original singles and eps about ten years ago through some north-english seller. But that's probably just my two cents ...

Ok, you've got me. What's the difference?

agreed, besides the louder, brighter mastering of iSelect, they are the same. they run perfectly in sync and the mixes appear identical. what are you hearing that we're not?

a couple of questions:

why have you labelled these as Ryko mixes? aren't they Ryko edits?
Let's Dance (ryko mix) /China Girl (ryko mix) /Modern Love (ryko mix)

how does this differ from the Tony Visconti Record Producers compilation?
The Prettiest Star (1970 mono 7”)

why have you labelled these as unique to the Ryko?
Growin' Up (same as on the Diamond Dogs 30th Anniversary edition)
Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy (12”) (same as the Oglio CD EP)

and a couple of additions:

Space Oddity acoustic 1979 has to be considered a "Ryko mix/edit" as it's not the original single mix - it's actually faked stereo vs the original true stereo - and extends the silence before the drums come in by 4 seconds.

Time and Here Today, Gone Tomorrow are "Ryko mixes" as Visconti's remixed David Live has much more stereo separation. Also the Visconti Time has an additional 15 seconds of piano in the intro.

Some mistakes then (some silly) so thank you and I will show amendments.


You are correct on all and indeed the Prettiest star 2003 remaster and the Growin' Up 2004 remaster are to my ears superior.

As the Oglio CD is a more obscure release (not as easily obtainable) I did discount it but will add note.

Space Oddity 79 yes is different enough to collect mix/edit title

Did not know about extra 15 secs on Time (now I have to purchase this CD) so will include
But other Live tracks across all 3 original RCA titles now have definitive CD versions and unless there is a difference in musical edit (not including crowd noise and Banter) I have not included as unique. Just to have the original vinyl running order you need to have Live (with extras at end) and Motion Picture on Ryko CD.

Some Are
I don't know what I can hear that you don,t unless you "Lend me your ears".
I believe it has been mixed differently in volume and audio placing of instruments.
Problem with remastering is when does it actually becomes remixing.
Obviously all Rykos sound different but this is enough difference to be called a different (far inferior) mix to these ears.

All said and done our Bavarian friend is right and some of my best CDs come straight from my vinyl.

Don't Sit Down!

The Ryko Time is not extended, it's extended on the Visconti remix, but only by reinstating some piano that the Ryko didn't include. the mixes are distinct so Here Today, Gone Tomorrow can also be classified as unique to the Ryko.

Here Today, Gone Tomorrow (Ryko mix) / Time (Ryko mix / edit)

Some Are (different mix to iselect ?) - 100% not. iSelect is mastered at a much higher volume level, but they are the same mix and use the same source.

The Ryko Space Oddity accoustic is longer and a different mix.

Space Oddity (1979 7" Ryko mix / extended edit)

can provide comparison clips/waveforms etc if required.

O.k. Shooky I have made the ammendments to Time and Spaceodditty.

There is now a note pointing out that later CDs of the 3 live releases change stereo mix and running order.

After your comments have been playing Some Are (after manipulating volume so that the wave forms seem almost identical). Wow the more you hear it the better it gets!
There is only a subtle difference between how the piano and other keyboards work with each other and their levels and positioning. This is only picked up by the best audio tool (the ear). However it is so subtle that I concede it could just be down to the Digital Remastering and I would run the danger of then including all Ryko released tracks.

So taken out of list above but I personally would still have down for my own purposes as a highlighted Ryko essential. Once you hear a difference on a quiet track like this it nags at you.

two final things...

the Stage mixes appear to be the same. when i A/B'd Alabama Song they were the same mix, just different mastering.

Some Are... 7.5dB volume boost for iSelect. identical mixes with virtually indistinguishable mastering. 100% the same source, in perfect sync, with no shift in instrument placement or relative volume of instruments. A/B'd in cool edit under headphones where shifts in separation etc are obvious when switching between two sources. whatever your ears are telling you, i have no doubt whatsoever they are 100% the same version. i'd put my house on it if i had a house.

Have updated by changing Dancing in the Street (7") from a Bold to normal entyry as now duplicated on "Nothing Has Changed"

However should I be putting Heroes (7") in Bold renamed as (Ryko single edit) as this is a remake??

Yes, i'd do this. Hopefully one day, we'll get the original single edit anthologised. I was disappointed this didn't happen on Nothing has changed.

however, if it's the same erroneous edit on NHC, it's not a ryko exclusive is it? isn't it also on Best Of Bowie with the same edit?

Ryko were the first. Not sure how else we could describe it. 1st CD edit?