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PostPosted: 14th Feb 2013, 11:30 am  
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I notice that the photographs of the labels for the UK Mercury pressing of The Man Who Sold The World feature the incorrect spelling of Tony Visconti's name ("Tonny Visconti").

There were also copies with Tony Visconti's name spelt correctly on the labels.

I once owned such a copy but I sold it many years ago.

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PostPosted: 14th Feb 2013, 2:05 pm  
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John, it's listed under the different editions but someone still has to step forward with a scan. Obviously any album on those lists that it not included yet is very welcome. And as the ones that are missing aren't necessarily the rarest, I urge every reader of this topic to please have a look in the Vinyl discography if you can provide scans!


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PostPosted: 14th Feb 2013, 3:25 pm  
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How rare and valuable is the Australian dress cover? I never knew it existed.


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PostPosted: 15th Feb 2013, 12:45 am  
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i image it's much harder to find than the UK as it rarely if ever appears for sale. value is impossible to determine in today's climate, with people willing to pay more for a "mint and unplayed" counterfeit than a genuine UK copy in VG condition. i'm also not sure about the sound and pressing quality of the Australian issue, which may be a factor in its desirability.

colin and/or john may have some first hand info about this...


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PostPosted: 15th Feb 2013, 5:34 am  
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HI all,

Thanks Ruud. I missed that item in the listing.

There is a an Australian MWSTW Dress sleeve on eBay at the moment.

Nice copy as well. Except for the tiny tear at the base of the sleeve.

http://tinyurl.com/mwstw-australia

eBay item: 221189184082

PS. Are there label variations with the German round MWSTW edition on the Mercury label. Is there a black label in addition to the blue label? Is a black label indicative of the counterfeit?

There is a German round MWSTW on eBay as well with black labels.

http://tinyurl.com/mwstw-germany

eBay item: 111011456849

The Australian dress sleeve rarely show up for sale and they do go for large prices. $400-00 USD and above.


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PostPosted: 15th Feb 2013, 8:40 am  
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johnlarkin wrote:
PS. Are there label variations with the German round MWSTW edition on the Mercury label. Is there a black label in addition to the blue label? Is a black label indicative of the counterfeit?

There is a German round MWSTW on eBay as well with black labels.

http://tinyurl.com/mwstw-germany

eBay item: 111011456849



I think that's a counterfeit copy because there is the printed white tape marks at the top of the front cover as => viewtopic.php?f=214&t=2371
also the labels are not black but greyer .


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PostPosted: 15th Feb 2013, 8:13 pm  
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Thank you. The printed white tape marks are parallel to the top seam or fold?


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johnlarkin wrote:
Thank you. The printed white tape marks are parallel to the top seam or fold?


Yes, they are at the top of the sleeve when folded.
Another way to distinguish a counterfeit is by the row of three stars that's at the left edge of the cover when folded out - they are cut off on counterfeits but intact in real copies. This is easy to spot even in low quality pictures.


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PostPosted: 16th Feb 2013, 2:42 pm  
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Ok, so now i am puzzled! The "different editions" topic states that the Australian MWSTW cover is not textured. The one currently on Ebay clearley describes the copy on sale is textured. So are there 2 variations of the Ozzie MWSTW?


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PostPosted: 16th Feb 2013, 4:20 pm  
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tomjoe wrote:
The "different editions" topic states that the Australian MWSTW cover is not textured.

There are varying degrees of texture and the Australian album is probably borderline between textured and satin. From the discography description:

Compared to the UK issue, the sleeve is not textured

IdbD Ref#7250

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PostPosted: 16th Feb 2013, 9:24 pm  
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I have a copy of the Australian MWSTW Mercury sleeve and the texture is a mystery in comparison to the UK release.

I am holding it now.

I took a close up shot of the sleeve and it certainly looks textured. The texture casts shadows. Please see the photograph.

It feels lightly textured, and the texture varies across the face of the sleeve, as if it has worn down with age here and there.

I wonder how the local printers here in Australia published the sleeve? Dd they use the original artwork or simply copy a sleeve from the UK?

I like Alan's description that it is "borderline" and may I suggest a compromise in the description within the forum discography.

"Compared to the UK issue, the sleeve is lightly textured"

I feel that stating it is "not textured" is too black and white. It seems to indicate that it would be smooth to the touch but it is not.

The copy presently on eBay is in such great condition there is a chance, may I so boldly suggest, that it feels more textured than say my copy which has been around the block quite a few times and is a little worse for wear. Due to seam splits the copy I own was extensively repaired by the previous owner and the album title is no longer visible on the spine.

Cheers, John.
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PostPosted: 16th Feb 2013, 10:27 pm  
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Thanks John,

I'll ask word_on_a_wing to confirm his sleeve is the same as yours before we update the discography. You never know, he may have the even rarer satin sleeve :-)

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PostPosted: 17th Feb 2013, 7:06 am  
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I guess it really does not matter that much.

I may even sell my Australian copy. The UK copy is sufficient. I am watering down my collection to the UK catalogue plus unique releases in other countries (unique sleeves and/or unique edits).

Collecting albums on the basis of sometimes insignificant sleeve variations is just too difficult these days. I wish to enjoy the albums and not suffer due to storage issues.


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PostPosted: 17th Feb 2013, 10:59 am  
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johnlarkin wrote:
I guess it really does not matter that much.

Quite the opposite John, these things are important in a discography of worldwide editions!

You are right though, very few of us can collect everything. Even ignoring the cost, you'd have to live in an aircraft hanger to find storage space for the 000s of Bowie records and CDs that have been manufactured over the past 50 years.

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PostPosted: 18th Feb 2013, 11:31 am  
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Vinyl discography now updated. Thanks Lars.

As the revised sleeve description is also longer than the space available in the Known editions list, it's now described as textured in the list with a link to John's post.

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